No, I haven't noticed anything like that, except maybe with one foot crank rotation. Then he reports to me about half the term of office. But this is a direct result of the way the trainer estimates the cadence.
You can connect a cadence sensor to the trainer - not necessarily buying from Elite, all you need is a simple contract speed sensor, a magnet on the crank, a sensor on the bicycle frame, connect the mini jack to the trainer and you have the real cadence in the trainer.
jsti1000 wrote:I'm writing this post because I don't want that Elite make any updates on this issue.
Speed isn't goal on erg mode. Holding power is. Yes it is hard:)
Well, that is a strange conclusion. If speed isn't the goal, then Elite should make an update. With how my Qubo worked i also had to hold the power. I just did not have to worry about what gear i was in or how fast i was pedalling. I just had to hold the power.
Whatever. I think what we are looking for is something like the power smoothing with the Wahoo Kicker and Kicker snap : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L7hfT0I7E0
And add a button somewhere where users can decide if they want the power smoothed or not in ERG mode. I think everyone must be happy with something like this.
No, the conclusion is absolutely correct.
You have unrealistic expectations for ERG mode, and you have no idea what the human-generated power characteristics are.
Register any ERG training on Qubo, provided that the registration is done with a normal power meter (crank, pedals, etc.). Only then will you find out how a person generates power and how much this power can be variable. Not only on the trainer, but also on the road. It is impossible to maintain the power of 200W as accurately as it looks on the chart of Qubo or Wahoo trainers with enabled reporting of smoothed power (almost a straight line). It simply is impossible, even on a trainer as good as the Tacx Neo. Even this one is not able to react quickly enough to maintain a super-precise set power.
Actually, as I recall, the Tacx Vortex reflected it quite well and was able to react relatively quickly to changes in force, moment and cadence of the user. And this is when registering the power in the crank. But it had a terribly low inertia and held almost the same resistance throughout the entire crank turn, which made it a terrible spin and ride.
The heavier the flywheel, the better the feeling while driving, but it is much harder to correct changes in force, torque and cadence of the user.
It seems to me that you expect false information that if you have an ERG, e.g. 200W, the trainer should report as much all the time, as it is done in Wahoo (with smoothing turned on) or as you had in Qubo. This is the wrong approach. This, of course, can help you earn a star in Zwift, but it's worth learning to spin evenly.
Would anyone be happy to cheat on him? You surely, maybe others too, because they would see something that would please them, even though the actual characteristics of the resistance would be quite different. Any normal-minded cyclist turns off the smoothing feature in Wahoo, because that's just a lie. When turned off, they wonder what their variable power generation characteristics are. This helps you learn to spin smoothly and maintain power. Contrary to appearances, also in Wahoo trainers there are fluctuations in braking power (although smaller than in the Direto), but this is how it works.